Monday, July 25, 2016

Beretta M9-22 10rd Mag Conversion into 15rd Magazine

I recently acquired a Beretta M9-22lr pistol. This pistol is a Umarex replica of the 92FS / M9 handguns found in the US Military. I shoot a 92F in 9mm on a pretty regular basis and when this pistol came out I was very excited to get may hands on one. To start with the gun actually feels and functions like the 92 series center-fire pistol I use. All the controls are the same as well as field stripping procedures. This is a no brainer for training with low cost 22 rim-fire and seamless transition back to my 9mm version. Below is a detailed review on the M9-22.



In addition, the M9-22 comes with 15 round magazines! This is very rare for a 22 caliber pistol to come from the factory with more than 10 round mags. There are many after market kits you can buy for various 22 pistols that allow additional rounds in your 22 magazines (YOU CAN FIND THEM HERE), but it is a nice change of pace to see the manufacturer provide these direct from the factory. However, in some states 15 bullets in your gun is more than the law will allow. So Beretta offers 10 round magazines for these oppressed states. If you have some Beretta factory 10 round magazines, chances are the basepad is glued together and not allowing disassembly. This can be a problem for cleaning dirty magazines. The steps below will help guide you to overcome the glue and disassemble your magazine for cleaning.

Beretta M9-22, M9, 22LR, Basepad, 92f, 92FS, 90-Two, Trainer, DIY, Hi-Cap, Capacity, Nictaylor00
NOTE THE GLUE OOZING OUT OF THE CRACKS (SEE ABOVE)

Beretta M9-22, M9, 22LR, Basepad, 92f, 92FS, 90-Two, Trainer, DIY, Hi-Cap, Capacity, Nictaylor00
USING A HEATGUN, APPLY HEAT TO THE PLASTIC BASEPAD. DO NOT GET THE GUN TOO CLOSE OR TOO HOT SO THAT IT MELTS/DEFORMS THE PLASTIC. YOU ONLY WANT TO HEAT THE BASEPAD ENOUGH TO LOOSEN THE GLUE AND ALLOW THE ROUND PIN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BASEPAD TO BE DEPRESSED (SEE ABOVE)

Beretta M9-22, M9, 22LR, Basepad, 92f, 92FS, 90-Two, Trainer, DIY, Hi-Cap, Capacity, Nictaylor00
ONCE THE GLUE IS HEATED AND BECOMES LOOSE, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DEPRESS THE ROUND PIN TO WHERE THE TAB ON THE BACK OF THE BASEPAD WILL STICK UP (SEE ABOVE)

Beretta M9-22, M9, 22LR, Basepad, 92f, 92FS, 90-Two, Trainer, DIY, Hi-Cap, Capacity, Nictaylor00
NOW YOU CAN SLIDE OFF THE BASEPAD TOWARDS THE FRONT OF THE MAGAZINE TUBE. TAKE CARE WITH THE SPRING AS TO NOT LET IT GET AWAY FROM YOU SINCE IT IS UNDER PRESSURE. (SEE ABOVE)

Beretta M9-22, M9, 22LR, Basepad, 92f, 92FS, 90-Two, Trainer, DIY, Hi-Cap, Capacity, Nictaylor00, Field Strip, Cleaning
ONCE THE BASEPAD COMES OFF YOU CAN REMOVE THE SPRING AND SPRING RETAINER CONTAINING THE SPACER (THE ALUMINUM TUBE GLUED TO THE SPRING RETAINER). AT THIS POINT YOU CAN NOW EFFECTIVELY CLEAN YOUR MAGAZINE AND ITS COMPONENTS. IT WOULD ALSO BE HELPFUL TO SCRAPE OFF AS MUCH GLUE AS POSSIBLE WHILE YOU CAN. (SEE ABOVE)

Beretta M9-22, M9, 22LR, Basepad, 92f, 92FS, 90-Two, Trainer, DIY, Hi-Cap, Capacity, Nictaylor00, modification, alter, restriction
IF YOU LIVE IN A STATE THAT DOES NOT HAVE MAGAZINE CAPACITY RESTRICTIONS, THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN REMOVE THE SPACER AND ALLOW AN ADDITIONAL 5 ROUNDS TO BE LOADED INTO THE MAGAZINE. WHILE THE GLUE IS STILL HOT, PLY OFF THE SPACER AND REASSEMBLE THE MAGAZINE WITHOUT THE SPACER. YOU SHOULD NOW BE ABLE TO FIT 15 CARTRIDGES IN THE MAGAZINE.(SEE ABOVE)



8 comments:

  1. Beretta 92 FS in 22 "Wow" never even knew they made one. Thanks

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  2. I realize this is an old blog, but I just purchased the 22LR conversion kit for my 92 & it came with a 10rd magazine.

    I can't see any glue, but the retainer won't move, so I have to assume it's glued.

    It looks like you're working with a 519.61 (stainless body).

    As best I can tell, I have the 519.161 (plastic exterior with a black metal core).

    https://www.berettausa.com/en-us/beretta-10-round-22lr-magazine-for-conversion-practice-kit/

    My question is whether, instead of a heat gun (or hair dryer), I could use hot water.

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    1. Conversion kit mags are disassembled the same way. Mechanics of the conversion kit is very similar to this stainless steel magazine. No need for a heat gun, just push the retainer down as shown in a video. While pushing on a retainer at the bottom of the magazine you will at the same time overextend the glue that keeps the retainer plate attached to the bottom part. So, because it is a flexible glue it will eventually loosen and you will be able to slide the bottom mag plate open.

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    2. Sorry, but the 519.161 is not disassembled the same way.

      The 519.161 is either structurally different, or the 519.161 uses a non-thermal adhesive.

      I tried a heat gun, boiling water, acetone, a punch tool, all of those in combination; all to no avail.

      I emailed Umarex, asking for disassembly instructions for cleaning purposes, clearly stating that I did not live within a state where magazine capacity was an issue.

      I never received a response from Umarex.

      I believe Umarex manufactured the 10 RD mags in a way that will likely destroy the mag if you try to remove the capacity limitations.

      A 10 RD mag is inconvenient for plinking, but magazine changes are an important part of learning the firearm.

      If you're following this thread and you believe mag capacity limits are the answer to prevent already unlawful violence, you probably need to subscribe to Paul Harrel's channel. I recommend starting with this video:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihQ-j6eALGc&t=959s

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  3. If you have a hair dryer I would try that first. But, if you have mags like in the link you posted it may not work at all. These mags I was working on are for the dedicated M9-22. The mags are skinny compared to the conversion kits mags.

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  4. I have the 9mm Beretta 92FS (Model: JS92F300M, 92FS, 9MM 3-DOT). For training purposes, I would like to purchase a 22LR Beretta model as identical as possible to my 9mm. There seems to be several models to choose from (92FSR, M9 22LR, M9A1_22, maybe more?). From looking online, the M9 22LR looks closer to mine than the 92FSR.
    Which version would you suggest? Thank you.

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    1. Is there a reason you do not want to buy the conversion kit?

      With the kit, you just swap the barrel, recoil spring, & slide. They have 22LR conversion mags that will fit your magwell.

      You'd be shooting on your frame.

      Apart from recoil differences between 9mm & 22LR, the action is the same.

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  5. What is the best way to get the basepad out, i get it till the metal is hot enough to be painful and yet still cannot get it to budge?

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